Although maybe as someone else has said, it actually influenced the cliché that followed. It's not a "different version", it's a rough edit. No dream sequence. That's similar to why I really loved Amélie. Life off world, Replicants, fake animals because all the real animals are extinct; all of it just accepted as a normal part of that world. I have to think there was some really great stuff that didn't make the final cut! Netflix did have Blade Runner up until May 2016, when Sony Pictures acquired the rights. Blade Runner: Enhanced Edition, the new remastered version of the classic 1992 adventure game has been delayed, according to Nightdive Studios, the team behind the remaster. It was made in 1982, kinda good if consider that alone. you always have to think about historical context (film history) as well. Fans and newcomers alike have faced an enduring question about Ridley Scott’s 1982 original: Which version of Blade Runner should I watch? I just wanted to add one more thing. During an interview with Europe Plus (via Screen Rant), Villeneuve stated that: “The thing is, the movie you’re going to see is the director’s cut. I honestly have never been able to get into it either. I didn't really feel anything to identify with Deckard, though. One of which is to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. They are never explained in exposition, Like I said in another post, that's what I find really good about films like Star Wars and Inception - the sci-fi elements are just there. Citizen Kane wouldn't win best cinematography either. In the near-future world of Blade Runner, real animals are difficult to come by, leaving people no choice but to spend thousands of dollars on synthetic versions.Tyrell Corp offers a beautiful line of mammals, fouls, and reptiles that are "more animal than animal." I'll get around to finishing it some day. The 25th anniversary version from 2007 is, according to Ridley Scott, the definitive Blade Runner… So within the film does Deckard know he's a replicant or is that left as an open question for both the audience and himself? A subreddit dedicated to Blade Runner. I prefer to think of Deckard as the antagonist and Roy (with the other Replicants) as the protagonist. Does anyone know if their are any plans to release an extended version? The more noticeable differences between The Director's Cut and The Final Cut include: The overall film has been brightened considerably, revealing previously hidden details in many shots. Roy Batty, urged on by Tyrell, is determined to live HIS life and experience it to the full even if it means a shorter lifespan; the film seems to make him more alive and human than us supposedly proper human schlubs, ekeing out our dreary 9-to-5 existences until we retire, get ass-cancer and have our children farm us out to die quietly in a hospice. If there are alternate versions, they’re not from me. The whole film itself looks lived in and used up. It's good because (in the version you watched) you end up wondering whether Deckard is replicant himself (which he probably is) -- furthering the questions about the meaning of humanity. They are never explained in exposition. THE WORKPRINT (1982) The workprint version of the film was shown prior to the film's theatrical … The gun fires two kinds rounds (I think), we assume a bullet and something much stronger. share. They respect eachother. It worked for me because of all the detail in the sets. There should be more science fiction in this style rather than just ALIENS + EXPLOSIONS + WAR + LOVE + CONSPIRACY. I reckon there'll be a time, in the fairly near future, when Bladerunner's cityscapes will look less dated and more realistic than Avatar's battle-scenes. Wizard of Oz wouldn't be nominated for best visual effects were it to compete today; neither would Blade Runner. I understand that the director initially starts with a "rough edit". And I know a lot of directors feel some degree of pressure from the studio to do so. Deckard's gun has a strange shape and little lights on it. It worked for me because of all the detail in the sets. When Deckard makes a visit to the company's headquarters, he notes a particularly exquisite owl. It is rather saddening that we can't experience them like the original viewers in theaters even if watching them for the first time. Childlike is a good way to describe them. Or perhaps some sort of Nietschean manifesto on how to live your life. I often advise people to view them as confused 4 year olds (technically accurate), It really sheds light on their actions and the performances of the actors. I have to think there was some really great stuff that didn't make the final cut! The best known versions are the Workprint, the US Theatrical Cut, the International Cut, the Director's Cut and the Final Cut. Now that the film has been released (over a year now), I was wondering if there were any plans for an extended version. One thing that is pointed out as a flaw by the ones who don't like the movie is the pacing: the movie feels slow. They were replicants... interesting. Point is, when watching a movie like Blade Runner, you might be taking plenty for granted just because you've already seen it done, over and over and in many cases better performed. BladeRunner works because you can see it in a number of ways, on a number of levels. I like cluttered, dirty smokey environments. If there's any side to the film that I might have missed that can perhaps show a different light on this. It's good because it raises a lot of questions about what it means to be human. Because of a deal with Starz, Sony pulled all of its live-action movies from Netflix in 2011. The sci-fi elements had a similar feel to Star Wars or Inception. Theatrical, International Theatrical, Director's Cut and the Final Cut. He's the classic noir detective caught between opposing forces he doesn't really understand, realizing too late who the real villains are, though whether any of them really qualify as "villains" is up to debate. Share this article on Reddit; ... Blade Runner has had seven different versions. ... watching Ridley Scott’s 1982 original Blade Runner. Good modelwork, in my mind, keeps effects a lot fresher than the computer animation that replaced it. So why is Blade Runner held up in such high esteem? But I also realize he has to edit that down for many reasons. We see this machine built to be a soldier (compare him with Schwarzenegger as the Terminator) quote poetry, feel nostalgic, love (Priss), hate (Tyrell) and ultimately value a life for its own sake (Deckard). I think he is, but it doesn't matter. Roy is just a thing, but he FEELS death approaching. There are some really good answers in here already. To compare it to possibly another 'slow' film, in 12 Angry Men, the build-up is all about seeing the characters for the first time and your first impressions of them. The 1982 dystopian science fiction action film directed by Ridley Scott and starring Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, and Sean Young. Everywhere you look, in almost every scene there are dark, brooding shadows, trash and garbage, dirty dishes piled in sinks, steam, smoke and who knows what else rising from the streets. It must be difficult to just program a robot with the emotions of a thirty-something year old person, which is why it seemed that everything about the replicants' behavior was slightly off. Add in Vangelis' outstanding futuristic noir score and you have, in my opinion, an absolutely fantastic film. Wow. There wasn't much to make him feel like a character, a person. Essentially the different versions of Blade Runner differ in 5 ways: 1) Ford's voiceover narration, 2) the forced happy ending, 3) the unicorn dream, 4) the additional violence (Tyrell's eyes being gouged out, the nail coming out the other side of Batty's hand, etc. r/bladerunner: A subreddit dedicated to Blade Runner. I like the world to look used and lived in. You can treat it as a straight detective story, or an ambiguous film noir, or a (rather slow) thriller about scary inhuman killer robots, if you like. Now when I say 'Can someone explain', I understood the plot of the film, but I'm not quite sure why it's considered to be so good. Look at what the Replicants are trying to accomplish (and tell me, honestly, are we supposed to feel bad for anyone connected to Tyrell?). Why are there multiple versions of Blade Runner, what are the differences between the eight different versions? Something like what happened with the original Blade Runner. If you're hoping to find Blade Runner on one of the streaming services you already subscribe to, there's bad news: Blade Runner is not currently on Netflix, Hulu or Amazon Prime. I confess that I was one of them (though my excuse was that this was pre-Director's Cut). https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjKI5ONdAyGTzV_hsGZV084HVd0Wz7wLi #bladerunner #vangelis #cyberpunk Conversely you're supposed to accept Deckard gunning down a fleeing, unarmed, female replicant in the back because she thumped him first (betraying her inhuman physical strength) and because Deckard is a heroic-looking protagonist with a cop's badge. https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2017/09/denis-villeneuve-says-there-will-be-no-directors-cut-of-blade-runner-2049/. If you need to wire someone up to a complicated machine and perform bizarre psychometric tests in order to discern if they're a human being, perhaps they really ARE human in all the ways that matter. With eight different versions of the original available, which is the definitive version and what are the key differences between them? And then again, Blade Runner can be a puzzle movie and you can sit and argue for hours over whether Deckard is a replicant or not. In the original release, Gaff spares Rachael's life, allowing her and Deckard to escape the nauseating confines of Los Angeles. The point is that we could believe either answer. I know there was a lot of versions of the film and I think this was the one that people recommend. Press J to jump to the feed. I'm interested to see what perspectives people have on this film. 13 comments. The film noir aspects also help, and are really well-done, too. I don't really know which version to watch (or which I have previously seen for that matter). It had the right feel to it. For those of us who like it, this slower pacing lets the story flow more naturally, lets us get into the atmosphere in a deeper way, and gives the movie the depth it wouldn't have if it were paced faster. Adult human emotions are the way the are because they've been in development for years. Bladerunner is many films in one, and it … You're supposed to be initially appalled by the early scene of the rather intimidating Leon shooting a Bladerunner - whose job it is to kill Leon because he's refusing to be a slave. They drive away into a natural landscape, and Deckard informs us that despite what Gaff had said ("It's too bad she won't live. Most of the science-fictional elements are plausible, and aren't just technobabble mcguffins. Bladerunner is many films in one, and it rewards rewatching and thinking about it's ideas. He just has it and uses it. There will be no further … maybe there’ll be a ‘studio version’ [laughs], maybe a producer version, but not a director’s version. If the southern slave states of the USA made noir movies about bounty hunters catching and killing escaped black slaves in the early 1800s, they'd look a bit like this. Something that is whole-heartedly in the genre, trying not to over-do elements of action or crime etc. And on that note, the film starts off by tricking you, as though it's shot for the benefit of bigoted earth people in the time it's set. Does anyone know if their are any plans to release an extended version? Bladerunner was the last great science fiction film that didn't use computers for the bulk of the effects (other than perhaps the slightly retroised Moon). I may have lost count, but the last time I checked there were 4 different cuts of Blade Runner. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Few movies have seen as many revisions as Ridley Scott’s 1982 sci-fi cornerstone Blade Runner.Eight different cuts of the film have been completed and seen by human eyes, though a … I understand the initial version of BR 2049 was something like four hours, before it got edited down for the final release. They are both victims of time / death. The original cinema release (with the voice over and the spliced from another movie ending) followed by three different versions cut by Ridley Scott. It would be lovely if an extended cut was released, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Also, without the grating narration that was in the theatrical release, the film feels a lot lonelier, and I would even go as far as to say, it's alienating for the viewer who identifies with Deckard. With the Replicants (Roy, Pris and Leon in particular) a lot of the struggles they faces come from their inability to develop emotionally. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Felt like that to me. ), Lets hope But it is rare that the deleted scenes are cut back in, most often just added as extras on the dvd. How is this materially different from 18th/19th century justifications for slavery? And then again, Blade Runner can be a puzzle movie and you can sit and argue for hours over whether Deckard is a replicant or not. I suggest that, if you haven't already, you check out the Blade Runner: 2049 screenplay. Again, no exposition, nothing calls attention to it. Yeah, there are multiple endings to Blade Runner. Virtually every movie goes through this phase. I like the world to look used and lived in. Another aspect is the technology that is not explained. I'm not saying it was terrible, but it was only the last 20 minutes or so that felt like a good horror film but it was only the last 20 minutes or so that I liked because it felt like a good horror film, with Rutger Hauer's monologue bit. If this sub is any indicator, I would think there would be a huge market for it! From what I gather, then, is that really this is a dedicated science fiction film. I got the 5 disc blu ray as a late xmas gift today from my cousin and i noticed there are 4 different (5 if you include the workprint) versions of the movie. The 1982 dystopian science fiction action film directed by Ridley Scott and starring Harrison … You can marvel at the effects, courtesy of the great Doug Trumbull, which were cutting edge back in 1982. The reason BR got a directors cut was because they took it from Ridley Scott and made the original into a freak show, not only the voice over Ridley (and Harrison) never wanted, but the sugar coated happy ending etc. So I don’t think there will be further versions. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, See more posts like this in r/bladerunner. Since post-production of Blade Runner, seven versions of the film have been known to exist for various reasons. For me, that is immersion. As for the film, there are several different available cuts of Blade Runner, so many people have seen slightly varied versions of it. The cinematography is amazing, but the story just moves to slowly for me and I lose interest. and I would even go as far as to say, it's alienating for the viewer who identifies with Deckard. In any case, the plot is much the same premise as the book, although animals are seldom mentioned save for an electric owl that reappears throughout. Before Blade Runner was ever released, what is known as the workprint version of the film was what Ridley Scott was working on before changes were made. The workprint cut of Blade Runner includes a definition of replicants as "Synthetic human with paraphysical capabilities, … You complained in another answer that Deckard doesn't feel like a fleshed out character - how much more human is the robot? Some of these comments are blowing my mind a bit. This version of the film was shown to test audiences in early 1982 and received a poor response from viewers. The air cars are everywhere, but never explained or remarked upon. In 2007, Ridley Scott released "Blade Runner: The Final Cut", digitally remastered with improved visual and sound effects, and with numerous revisions to the 1992 Director's Cut. Yeah when Roy was chasing Deckard. They don't waste any time explaining how any of it works, Add in Vangelis' outstanding futuristic noir score, It felt dated. We've all seen too many alien bursting out of chests that it now borders on boring. They assume no one would want to watch a four-hour film. The whole film itself looks lived in and used up. Everywhere you look, in almost every scene there are dark, brooding shadows, trash and garbage, dirty dishes piled in sinks, steam, smoke and who knows what else rising from the streets. Starring Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young, and Edward James Olmos, it is loosely based on Philip K. Dick's 1968 novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (Which is definitely worth reading if you appreciate 2049: while the end product is still of course a fantastic film, the cut dialogue adds a lot of nuance to various scenes. It had a purpose for it being slow, compare this to the original Total Recall movie, I haven't seen this either, so I can't really comment on that. All of these examples, at one time set new standards in their own domain. I'm starting to see why people do like this film, however, I don't think I will ever be a fan. You can treat it as a debate on the ethics of slavery; is it right to force someone to work for you because you created them, or because they're not quite human, according to your (pseudo)scientific tests? Deckard's gun has a strange shape and little lights on it. First off, I watched the 'Remastered Director's Cut'. So why is Blade Runner held up in such high esteem? Blade Runner is a 1982 science fiction film directed by Ridley Scott, and adapted by Hampton Fancher and David Peoples. There were 7 versions of Blade Runner in total that were shown to audiences*: 1. Different version of 2049? I understand the initial version of BR 2049 was something like four hours, before it got edited down for the final release. I'm going to have to watch it again in a few weeks time. Now the slow pacing reflects the approach of death. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. The Different Versions of 'Blade Runner' Hi guys, looking to re-watch the original film before seeing 2049. Mostly, people say Deckard is the protagonist, but you can look at it from Roy's perspective too (that very early shot of flames reflected in an eye - a blue eye, like Roy's - invites us to do so). I don't think of them in either way. save. The Final Cut is just … The atmosphere is really well-done. Carrie's ending would probably not scare a whole lot of people in theaters today. I don't see Deckard as the antagonist, per se. What is the best version of Blade Runner? Blade Runner is now considered by many to be one of the famed director's best works—fueling demand for the release of its belated sequel, Blade Runner 2049, in 2017. What that gives them though, is the overwhelming sense of child-like wonder that Roy describes in his final words. Total Recall has much tighter pacing, and while some atmosphere remains, you lose a lot of depth, and end up with an entertaining action flick with a smidge of intriguing science fiction and philosophy, while Blade Runner lets all the deeper ideas really sink in. If there is exposition calling attention to something it is as if the director were pausing the film to explain something to me and that breaks the suspension of disbelief. No voice over. It felt like the typical cheesy 80s sci-fi music I would have expected from a B-movie. I'm not sure if all the cut material is on the page there, but it includes quite a bit of dialogue at least that didn't make it into the released cut. Also, as said here before,n Ridley likes to revise his earlier stuff. That’s my director’s cut. Of course, that raises the question of whether Deckard is a robot. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, News & Discussion about Major Motion Pictures, Press J to jump to the feed. After that, what's the difference? Although now that I think about it more, maybe that was the point of it. But given all the furor here, the funniest thing about the different versions of Blade Runner is how similar they actually are. It has great depth. These five versions are included in both the 2007 five-disc Ultimate Collectors Edition and 2012 30th-Anniversary Collector's Edition releases. You can sit back and enjoy the way the film is shot; Bladerunner is considered one of the textbook examples of how to light and shoot a movie, so film geeks tell me. They were just there - they didn't need to be explained, the movie feels slow. Five versions the workprint, American theatrical cut, international theatrical cut, Director's Cut, and The Final Cut have been widely seen. The acting is pretty good, although that can be seen as subjective. A work print that was shown to test audiences in 1982. Look at what humanity has done in the creation of Replicants. Seven different versions of Ridley Scott's 1982 science fiction film Blade Runner have been shown, either to test audiences or theatrically. In all, there are 7 primary versions that exist of the film and have been screened over the years: the 1982 workprint prototype cut; the 1982 San Diego sneak preview cut; the 1982 Theatrical cut; the 1982 International Theatrical cut; the 1986 US broadcast cut; the 1992 Director's Cut; … You can treat it as a meditation on what it means to be human; are these artificial replicant lifeforms really people or not? The U.S. This is helped a lot by Vangelis's great soundtrack. Blade Runner 2049, Denis Villeneuve's long-awaited sequel to Ridley Scott's masterpiece, Blade Runner, has opened to rave reviews. We see him come to terms with his own death. What's different: The resolution, the lighting, the lip sync and one less swear. To get a feel for how the slower pacing helps with depth, compare this to the original Total Recall movie, since both movies are adapted from Phillip K. Dick's writings. There were moments of good acting, but a lot of it felt a bit wooden. I wonder how many of Bladerunner's rabid fans didn't really "get it" the first time and, like you, didn't know what the fuss was about. They are central to the plot, and well-integrated. During the build-up, there wasn't a whole lot being built up. Look at the role that Deckard plays out in the relationship humanity has with Replicants. Another aspect is the technology that is not explained. Reddit LinkedIn WhatsApp Email Print Talk “Blade Runner” (1982) ... the lasting impact of “Blade Runner” was also quite different than these films that became instant cultural phenomenons. When wondering "why is this classic a classic?" Although he could have been a replicant like you said, This I can agree with. Blade Runner is actually celebrating three anniversaries in 2017 with the Director’s Cut reaching 25 and the widely acclaimed Final Cut turning 10. It's good science fiction, not just popcorn scifi. I like cluttered, dirty smokey environments. For those of us who like it, this slower pacing lets the story flow more naturally, Sure it did feel slow, but I don't think it was so much the fact that it was slow, but that it didn't feel like there was much of a purpose for it to be slowed down.
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