When there is a spread like that, something is usually incorrect or behind the scenes wrong. PS: thank you all for sharing your stories, I'll be replacing 28yr old windows this year and my research brought me here. I told them my husband works long hours and it would be almost impossible to meet with us both - they still scheduled the appointment with me.". We feel that products, and more importantly, the people behind those products are an integral part of our company. Would love any recommendations. We live in Tampa and came down to PGF and Simonton. French door vs sliding? And New South, whose product pitch was impressive. I'm looking at a $25,000 job so I want to pick the right one. I'm not a window expert and don't have a dog in this but I think that most windows are tested for water penetration up to about winds of 60mph. Custom Window Systems, Inc. (CWS) has been in business since 1986 and prides itself in producing high quality window and door products for both residential and commercial use. He was not obnoxious or pushy. We did a window job together several years ago. We've received multiple quotes from multiple companies on impact windows. We like the idea of a local mfgr, but pricing was astronomical-almost double the Simeonton quote (ummm...factory direct implies a more reasonable price). This year, we will be unveiling the next evolution in this popular trend: Modern Edge all-black interior and exterior frames. If it were me, I would turn to the quality of the installers as the deciding factor. Everyone knows PGT. Have just completely remodeled my master bedroom and bath - and I could definitely live with my color choice for life! We're in Sarasota and narrowed it down to PGT and NewSouth. Wondering which you chose and why? What's the advantage of vinyl over aluminum? What's your vote? Thanks millworkman. when it got into single digit and below zero weather, water froze. After the poor customer service with trying to reach the gentleman whom handle New Construction Impact glass, btw who never called me back I decided, after the horrible reviews on BBB the ratings and bad reviews on Google that I was not, going to try my luck with a company that could not even have the courtesy to call me back after 3-4 calls. Anyway, I'd really like to hear your thoughts on these. Also, I'm not a big fan of using PVC windows in the south. Beyond that, as I understand it, aluminum can last longer, but unless well maintained is more prone to degradation by salt water. Hi, we recently got bids for CWS and PGT for three sets of Hurricane Non-Impact windows. Architectural windows are fixed windows which are available in an extensive range of custom shapes and sizes. Of the 13 installed windows, three of them had defective balance systems and they would not open. Have looked at PGT and CWS but don't seem to come across much info on Pella or Viwinco? Do I want to save 5k and go with CWS? PGT ® Custom Windows + Doors. We have narrowed it down to 2 different companies, they are essentially coming in at the same price. Founded in 1980, the Company employs approximately 1,700 at its manufacturing, glass laminating and tempering plants in North Venice, Florida. they weren't made by Force V Environmental, etc.) Window Manufacturer - JeldWen or Andersen?? Hi - Looking to build a new home down in Florida on the waterfront. Curious about your final installation experience Nicole and Janice? We know what hurricane impact windows are. I was pleasantly surprised that PGT Winguard 5500 (with Argon Gas came in $15,000 less than the CWS windows! Re manufacturers, Simonton has a double lifetime warranty. We too are trying to decided between the vinyl vs aluminum PGT Winguard windows and doors. Two quotes so far: Karlovy, who or neighbors used and liked, but we have a few Simeonton windows and the vinyl frames in the south windows are chalky (it's only been 5 years since install--non south facing windows are fine). My general contractor thought the green too "girly" until it was completed - now he can't say enough about how relaxing the color feels! Every window upstairs and downstairs had same problem. CWS is often compared to PGT Windows, which is typically more well known, and is an aluminum and vinyl impact window manufacturer. Also for south Fl, Miami Dade. I'd say that PGT has a bit better reputation -- or perhaps I'd say they are a little better known that the Custom Window Systems. The window brands are, "PGT Industries," (apparently made in North Carolina while the actual company is located in Venice, Florida) and, "Custom Window Systems." (impact exterior). The company’s trusted brands include CGI®, PGT® Custom Windows + Doors, and WinDoor®. Install these windows in areas where you want quick ventilation like an office, bedroom, or bathroom. Mr glass windows vs pgt. We fell in love with the product claims, the low heat transfer and easy operation. PGT Innovations is the nation’s largest manufacturer of impact-resistant windows and doors, holds the leadership position in its primary market, and is … We’ll compare their designs against ES Windows’ shortly but for now, we’ll tell you that they come with a 10-year warranty. The PGT Innovations’ family of brands include CGI ®, PGT ® Custom Windows and Doors, WinDoor ®, Western Window Systems, Eze-Breeze ®, CGI Commercial, and NewSouth Window Solutions. I'd never run a one legger, especially in the highly competitive window business. Ask replacement window questions & get answers! From my research re HVHZ windows, water penetration is based on volume per minute and not wind speed. after I went to the Home show last year Tampa (2018) I ran into a gentlemen that saw me near their display he was very unsatisfied and also showed me pictures on his phone, he was livid with the company from the horrible installation to the rugged finish they left on the windows. I just got quotes for 19 rectangular windows; 7 front facing window required colonial mullions per HOA rules. If you are doing full framed replacement windows you certainly can use an aluminum framed window same as vinyl or wood. So if a cat 5 hurricane comes through and your windows crack, they would replace. The new Series 7600 Multi-Slide Door features proprietary technology and low-E glass … (Ocala, FL) This is one of the highest wind load rated products of its type, and at a moderate price. As to the dented windows, I guess I would have to learn to live with them. Across street from ocean. Okay, are we all on the same page? I'll let you all know how it goes! " Please post your final plans!!! I’m looking at Home Depot who quotes PGT made exclusively for them and 8 week delivery and install. PGT pioneered the U. S. impact-resistant window and door industry, and today is the nation’s leading manufacturer and supplier of residential impact-resistant windows and doors. Or Paradise Exteriors? Builders grade at best products. Both PGT windows from PGT Industries and EAS from Eastern architectural Systems build windows that meet the toughest Florida Building Code (FBC) Large Missile Impact testing. If your In Central Florida Orlando & Tampa Offices. It is a lifetime warranty that covers everything including screens. I had never heard of CWS before today. While Custom Window Systems may not have the most recognizable name in the window industry, the company does enjoy a good reputation amongst industry experts for durable and well made windows and doors. "Need personal recommendations for a business that sells & installs PGT hurricane impact home windows.". Someone that you purchased from (recently) & are satisfied with their price & happy with quality of installation & end result. If the manufacturer says that the life expectancy of their window is 20 years, it is my understanding that this is the lifetime that they are referring to. I was not running my humidifier at time, there was no visible condensation on windows. We hear about PGT all the time and both of my husband's siblings went with PGT on their homes. That is as important as picking the best windows. After hurricane Andrew in 1992, PGT dedicated their company to researching and developing impact rated windows and doors. Pgt ® custom windows + doors. Ive had my CWS windows for a year now and the only thing I don't like are the latches. Never heard of the others and nothing about them looks impressive from their website and PGT has a pretty good history for products and customer service. So far have only spoken to Carrollwood Doors and Windows. bene204: Have you considered costa esmeralda or costa rosa granite? I received a quote for impact resistant windows from a company in southwest florida that installs both Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus (CWS) as well as PGT windows. Dealing with CWS has been quite a nightmare. I am purchasing the remaining impact windows and doors from PGT. However, I like each of these companies for impact windows and I think you'd be well served with either one. I purchased 20 hurricane impact windows from CWS, and I regret it immensely. Personally I would recommend PGT especially if you can buy them from a diamond dealer that can provide you the crystal care warranty. So, from what I can tell, once the winds reach hurricane strength your windows are no longer promised not to leak. He and I go back nearly 50 years. Built for strength, protection and beauty, PGT® Architectural Systems serves the needs of the commercial and residential high-rise window market. Have narrowed my search down to PGT Winguard Aluminum windows and now trying to decide between single hung and casement windows.Majority of windows are 36x72. CWS should be 20% cheaper too. Our Brands Advancing the industry. So I am trying to figure out all the quality differences. It will cost me approx $800 more to go with the PGT windows. CWS is coming in at nearly $9,000 less than PGT!!! Yeah, now I'm a satisfied customer and paid the windows off last week. Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus vs PGT. As far as double hung or casement that is up to you and whether you want the ease of a casement crank or have no issues sliding the sash on a hung window. I just contracted with New South for 12 panels (4 large sliders) of lower level sliding glass high impact doors out to the pool. I'm no expert, only sharing what I read. " seems like they use PGT windows. I was really impressed with their features, BBB ratings, consumer reports. We live in South Florida so both hurricane protection and energy efficiency are important to us. They stand behind their work and actually, all the homes I visited on the water had either, builder used PGT on his own waterfront home, window but I don't think they have the experience or, install PGT again plus get the most relaible installer, possible that was a Diamond dealer for PGT, and hire them. I don't know if one will be any quieter than the other. Need personal recommendations for a business that sells & installs PGT hurricane impact home windows. Looks like NewSouth is good enough for PGT - PGT acquires NewSouth in $92M cash deal. A Marvin dealer tomorrow (because I ❤️ Matt Risinger), and I'd prefer an aluminum framed window if it's not out of reach based on our southern exposure vinyl experience. FAS Windows & Doors!!! Leaning towards using them to install PGT doors and windows, has anyone use home depot for windows installation. Western Window Systems Founded in Phoenix, Western Window Systems designs and manufactures moving glass walls and windows that bring indoor and outdoor spaces together. What they did do that changed the situation is run a self sticking piece of fiber in the track facing outward and I have not had that issue since. I would appreciate any feedback anyone can provide. Plus, if their windows do crack, all the glass will stay in place. Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus vs PGT #1 Post by FLhomeowner » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:19 am. The PGT WindGuard Vinyl is available two toned. To make a long story short, I asked for a refund on the seven windows I returned after many back and forth phone calls. When I had companies out to quote, I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction. My friend used costa esmeralda with white shaker cabinets, and it's gorgeous. Thanks for the feedback! Although in My opinion they are a big "C"- company, that high pressures homeowners to commit, My neighbor says they came out and, would not come to the home unless His wife was their also, they started at one price and, dropped it 3 times in less then 1/2 hr in order for them to sign to replace their windows. Took a long time to get someone to show re. If you are considering PGT's - READ the warranty. I have used both windows in multiple homes I have built in South Florida. The walls are Behr Aqua Chintz, with ceiling done in Behr Maui Mist (a very clean white just ever-so slightly blue), & the trim in Behr Ultra Pure White. The other company is quoting both PGT for the 3 larger Horizontal Rollers and ECO for the 2 smaller Rollers. by FLhomeowner » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:19 pm. In aluminum, they don’t make what I prefer. We are having a difficult time accepting such a huge price difference. He was their trying to look to replace them in several areas since they leaked he said with another company . ... ECO Window Systems. It doesn't cover much! 4 reviews of Custom Window Systems "CWS is a rare find in today's fast paced world of over promise and under deliver companies. CWS - never again!! [Phoenix] – March 31, 2017 – Today, Western Window Systems introduced its strongest and most energy-efficient aluminum multi-slide door ever, packed with unique innovations that address energy and structural requirements while embracing contemporary design. The purchase was made in October 2017 through Lowe's. Thanks. Uneeda Home Improvement - Thank you. CWS should be 20% cheaper too. I am going with Simonton. The contractor I’ve been working with in our remodel uses Custom or American Craftsman. "Are my windows too large fir casement gear mechanisms etc?". How about ECO window systems in Florida; how do they compare with PGT? I was going to contract with a local Diamond rated PGT Dealer (Weather Tite) and then Paradise Exteriors offered to drop their estimate for the Soft-Lits to almost the same amount. Also Marvin does not make an aluminum framed window. The Company’s brands, in their respective markets, are a preferred choice of architects, builders, and homeowners throughout North America and the Caribbean. The Aqua Chintz paint blends beautifully with the new concrete shower stained in a light aqua. They are doing. Eco-Guard Series 300 ... PGT Impact Windows. The test that I was thinking of is ASTM E331. They feel really cheap. "How about ECO window systems in Florida; how do they compare with PGT". The view and fresh air from your windows make a huge impact on the experience of being in your house, Bid drafts or stuffiness farewell and say hello to lower utility bills with new, energy-efficient windows, It’s more than just a patio door — it’s an architectural design element. The sash recesses back into the frame, allowing for a much higher design pressure, instead of relying on small tilt latches to keep your sash intact when impacted. I really spent allot of time doing my research and in the end its Primarily the, installer that so important because if they are installed wrong they leak and loose seal, no matter what. PGT custom windows and doors are built to meet the needs, priorities, location, and budget of your home renovation. We had new south come out and were completely blown away by look/quality/warranty compared to the others. Because of these assurances, I agreed to the installation of 13 of the 20 windows. Hopefully the experts here can correct me if that's wrong. My CWS quote was DOUBLE my PGT quote, so you need another quote directly from a local dealer/installer. I was originally going with PGT's but I feel the New South window is a much better quality window and has the best warranty in the business and for the same price as two of the PGT quotes I got. I know that PGT is in our budget but suspect the others won’t be. They make a wood window with any aluminum cladding. The Company also provided a full year estimate for Western Window Systems. However one company is quoting ES Windows (7/16" Impact Glass, Stainless Steel Hardware, Screens included). The quotes are for six 73 x 52 windows (in three pairs across the front of our home). I did not have the same experience as Noel C as far as the initial sales visit, and when I told them my husband works long hours and it would be almost impossible to meet with us both - they still scheduled the appointment with me. If those are equal, I would probably go with the PGT only because they are a bit bigger operation. We are in Tampa and looking at replacing our windows with impact hurricane windows. Building off the decades of success laid by PGT ® Custom Windows + Doors and grown through the additions of CGI ®, WinDoor ®, Western Window Systems, Eze-Breeze ®, CGI Commercial, and Eco Window Systems, our carefully assembled brands share a deep commitment to the highest-quality products, robust research and … WINDOWS . PGT Custom Windows + Doors is part of an entire brand of companies dedicated to safety, integrity, innovation and sustainable growth. We've narrowed it down to PGT and CWS. Staying the vinyl family of products, Simonton Stormbreaker and the PGT impact product are two of the more favorably reviewed products. Does it matter how good of a deal you received if you have thousands of dollars in water damage? If you have any questions or if you’d like me to recommend my local window distributor, don’t hesitate to reach out to us. So if someone has Simonton windows installed, what will be the percentage of the replacement cost covered by the warranty in 10 years? Ultimately, I want black/bronze exterior and white interior. We are building in Tampa. I am just going to pray that all goes well and I have a positive experience! their work is being monitored ,and the owner really cares. You guys are making me nervous! This WinGuard® vinyl casement window (CA5540) is hinged on the side like a door, opening either from the left or right. Anyone with experience with CGI or ECHO? It will cost me approx $800 more to go with the PGT windows. Another contractor told me to look up the owners of New South names they, already have another company with a different name in the works I guess to flip to when, the Reputation is in the gutter. Many of the plastisizers that make it more flexible have been replaced by UV inhibitors that make it more brittle. The sales guy was here this morning and said CWS and PGT are like coke and pepsi and its only really about the costs. Seconding Wow. The Company’s brands, in their respective markets, are a preferred choice of architects, builders, and homeowners throughout North America and the Caribbean. Two years ago, PGT debuted black exterior frames on all vinyl products. They provided me with info on humidity in winter issues and I already knew that and did all I could to avoid those problems. This single pane window offers an unobstructed view of the outdoors and maximum ventilation for the home. We compared apples to apples as far as being vinyl, Low-E, Argon filled, etc. She had been planning to do a black and white kitchen with a black countertop, but when she saw the esmeralda slab, as she puts it, "I fell in love." Both also look beautiful with natural cherry cabinets. when looking at PGT and CGI side by side you will see that the design pressure are very close and the fact is any PSI over 50 will do the job so both impact windows will protect you the same , the big difference is in the cosmetic finishing which CGI has them beat by far and is a good reason PGT spent 111,000,000 in 8/14 to buy out CGI i think says it all Years ago we used Gorell Windows. https://pgt-custom-windows-and-doors.pissedconsumer.com/review.html Hi!! I know NOTHING about CWS, so I am skeptical! Already decided on PGT. We have a lot of openings (20- some of which are very large) so we knew this would be an expensive project. The windows arrived in early March 2018 for installation, and upon inspecting them, I called Lowe's to tell them that I did not want the windows because they were scratched and dented. Guess I should have put, need for Miami area. When you see a "lifetime" warranty, make sure to find out what the lifetime is. I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction.". Home Depot subcontracts instllersinstallers so there is a double layer of mark ups. The PGT Innovations’ family of brands include CGI®, PGT® Custom Windows & Doors, WinDoor®, Western Window Systems®, CGI Commercial®, Eze-Breeze® and NewSouth Window Solutions®. I don't think one can ever go wrong with aqua or teal! Thank you!! I would also monitor the work and be hands on, as much as possible the crews work better when they know. Founded in 1980, PGT ® Custom Windows + Doors is the nation’s leading manufacturer and supplier of residential impact-resistant windows and doors. They are double the price of CWS, but the quality and warranty knock it out of the park. THey seem to go above and beyond the Miami Dade requirements. Would love to hear if anyone used them. Quartz doesn't look all that different from solid surface. The sales guy was here this morning and said CWS and PGT are like coke and pepsi and its only really about the costs. Look for the window with the best leak performance and you might be one step closer to avoiding buyer's remorse. Most times the factory will pay for only the window and force the homeowner to use only it's factory sponsored labor (at a high rate) to try to offset the loss of product value. Any suggestions from home owners, not business would be greatly appreciated! The post right above me makes me want to go with PGT, but than I wonder how many good reviews aren't posted. PGT BUT from a window dealer not a box store. Contacted the company & him 3-4 times thru voice & Email he never got back to me seems as he could not be bothered, Did you look at the amount of complaints New South, windows has in BBB?
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