Ive been told everything from one end of the power/pressure spectrum to the other. Never will buy one of those. This N-Frame revolver features a polished steel frame, cylinder and barrel, red ramp front sight, adjustable rear sight, and will hold 6 . 1980's Bucheimier - Clark, .44 Magnum, Smith & Wesson, Leather Ranger pistol Holster, Stamped 85A - 86 5 out of 5 stars (239) $ 49.00. I know I might get flamed for this, but. The Smith & Wesson Model 629 Double-Action Revolver is a serious big game hunting handgun, capable of taking large species, with the hard-hitting .44 magnum cartridge. . Fond memories of being at a public range in Orlando, Florida in the late 90s, I stepped up to a firing line busy with people popping-off 9mm, .357, and .45 ACP, and who knows what else. Smith & Wesson Model 29-3, 6" Nickel .44 Magnum Revolver Used in like new condition, with blue unmarked box with original brushes and wax paper. However the Alaskan isnt a S&W L frame 5 shot 44 magnum either. No way to even get to most of the boxes. Dumped that too. Drilled & tapped. Your hand will thank you. Looks like pecks on the trig. Except, 5 1/2 inch and 44 mag. The firing line was momentarily silent as every head on the firing pivoted towards the wisp of smoke from the barrel of my gun. Ugh. Although modern versions have the much-hated lock mechanism and lack a fixed firing pin, these are still good, solid guns. Smith & Wesson's large frame revolvers are a favorite choice among handgun hunters, competitive shooters and revolver enthusiasts. 1 Review. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The bore looks very good. The original draft of the script called for a 4-inch Model 29 with a nickel finish. Your IP: Be aware that firing full-power .44 Magnum loads will with it produces prodigious amounts of recoil. *BOOM*! Anyway, depending on which Randalls were talking about Id trade Mark two Randalls for that pinned 629. The second reason is Freedom Arms warranty. In Stock. This is the Smith & Wesson S&W model 629-4 with a .44 magnum caliber and a 61/2 in. Here's a new-in-box, very hard-to-find SMITH & WESSON PERFORMANCE CENTER MODEL 629 COMPETITION .44 MAGNUM REVOLVER. Ive run some hot reloads on mine through the Ruger with zero problems whatsoever. This gun is in excellent conditon. I think I need to add a Model 69 to my collection, perhaps even as a carry piece. I would not trade it for anything. If you plan to shoot IDPC . I would probably rate in the following order: Oh, but you can load .44 Specials into a .44 Magnum. 163606. But I understand if you cant handle the truth. In addition to coming with a micro-adjustable rear sight, the Model 57 also had target-type stocks. Smith & Wesson Model 1905 .38 Special 6" barrel great condition . Blueing is near perfect, comes with a scope base. Gun is used in very good condition. Ruger Redhawk Stainless 4.2" Revolver 6 . favorite load 335 grain hard cast 1050 fps. alo NIB Smith & Wesson 69 Combat Magnum in .44 Magnum. The Model 69 is small enough to be carried and big enough for serious field use. I have a Stainless steel Ruger Super Blackhawk that was blueprinted by Larry Kelly. I enjoy the kick, It came in handy for self defense a few yrs back I didnthave to pull it .But sure gave me alot of comfort having it tucked in my back..I;m almost 76 and all busted up. Phone: 800-292-3811 Email sales@americasgunstore.com. Case colors look good on hammer and trigger. Smith & Wesson's large frame revolvers are a favorite choice among handgun hunters, competitive shooters and revolver enthusiasts. Five or six cylinders is plenty for a day. Add to Favorites Simith Wesson 357 Magnum Thumb Break Hand Made . I have an 8 and some odd inch barreled stainless Raging Bull in 44. . And yet, in spite of being built like tanks, the one that I shot has THE BEST trigger that I have ever fired on any firearm, period. So I stuck it in the vault. (1) Ruger Super Blackhawk/Redhawk In looking, several customs there, but not the Randall. High Polished . After five rounds out of 10 out of the 2 3/4 because a buddy of mine was shooting with me, I can promise you I wont do it again. I hate spell . It is a wonderful weapon. The Model 629 produced adequate accuracy, with groups around 2 inches at 25 yards. Performance & security by Cloudflare. A quality product and customer service is dictated after the sale not just making the sale. Bore and action are excellent. So it really comes down to practical use. Barrel . The Ruger SBH Bisley Hunter at a svelte 52oz. and 6.5 in. Show Only Guns so i bought boxes of them. Yeah, that put a big-assed grin on my face. Not sure Ive seen any +p+ stuff in .41 though. All you need do is change your cartridges accordingly. (Most of the K and N frames came that way back then and before.) I shot my first ever deer with it in 1981 on a WY hunt. The S&W; Model 629 6'' is a double-action revolver belonging to the N-Frame family.It is chambered in .44 Magnum. Or you want to save some money for ammo. Lets face it when a purchase like that is made its mostly for the name. Too hard to get the eye relief right. The out-of-the-box action and trigger would rival anything the S&W Custom Shop produces today, as does fit and finish. Smith and Wesson are overrated and overpriced.. . Not didnt. Its a precision quality gun. Mfg in 1985. I would like to have one because it has been a goal of mine not only to own one and fire one. Standing unsupported I can keep them all on a pie plate at 50 yards. It sounds like youve shot enough of it that writing it would be easy. I had a birdshead Vaquero in .44 mag and that was a sweet little gun. Worthless. The grip I use is larger than most people like but the unvented barrel, heavy shroud and grip like a club which really spreads recoil the vented barrel is seldom used. The Bodyguard's features include a 2.75-inch barrel, unloaded weight of only 12.3 ounces and a Crimson Trace integrated laser on many of the variations. This is a five-shot .44 Magnum with a short barrel. :45.5 oz./49.5 oz./53.5 oz. I put a Ultradot on it and made all the difference in the world. Gadsden, sorry I cant tell what it is, as I cant find it. Its like buying a Harley Davidson Road King over a Honda Goldwing. Plus, the raging bulls look pretty cool, I think. For sale: One (1) new Smith and Wesson Model 29 -10, .44 Magnum. Im not 81 but I love shooting my Alaskan. just rolls with recoil. Includes Smith & Wesson woode, This is a spectacular all-original factory-engraved Smith & Wesson Pre-29 .44 Magnum revolver that was manufactured in 1957 in superb condition both inside and out. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. The frame of the Model 629 is made of stainless steel and the grips are made of rubber. All pre-stupid key locks. The Super Blackhawk Hunter has the ability to mount a scope or red dot sight, which is an advantage for hunting. The Monson-made DW are severely underrated wheelguns from the Golden Age of Modern Revolvers. The metal surfac OUR STOCK NUMBER: 13271 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: SMITH AND WESSON, 69 COMBAT MAGNUM ACTION: REVOLVER CALIBER: .44 MAGNUM CAPACITY: 5 SHOT BARREL: 4.25 ADJUSTABLE REAR Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 Double Action Revolver serial #N647646, .44 Magnum, 4 pinned barrel with an excellent bore. Smith and Wesson 69 Combat Magnum, .44 Magnum, 2.75 Barrel NEW Free Shipping 10064 For sale: One (1) new in box Smith & Wesson 69 Combat Magnum, .44 Magnum. 022188141566. Description: SMITH & WESSON MODEL 29 SILHOUETTE - .44 Magnum caliber revolver, 10 5/8 inch barrel, adjustable front and rear sights, bright blue, Manufactured between 1983 and 1991. Nickel plated revolver in very good condition. Tucson 750.00 USD. This model has been made famous by Clint Eastwood's 'Dirty Harry' character and thus has been widely produced and sought after. Full lug barrel. Ruger 5.7 LC Carbine . jimmy james . I believe that the total production target of 3000, which was never achieved, was to include the polished stainless version, This is a Mint condition Looks like new, Looks potentially unfired. Given to him "by the gang at Harrah's" it sold at auction in 2013 for $17K. 10mm doesnt really give you anything that a .357 cant. . SMITH & WESSON ENGRAVED M29 IN WOOD PRESENTATION CASE, Smith & Wesson Nickel Model 29-10 Revolver Chambered in .44 Magnum Caliber **Minty - In Presentation Box - Mfg 2006 - Classic Series**, Smith & Wesson Model 29 Elmer Keith Commemorative, #EMK0372 of 2500, Cal. Gently pressed the bang-switch. The Model 629 Deluxe chambered in .44 Magnum, features elegant textured wood grips and sports a 6.5 inch barrel. It has a 6" barrel and stainless finish. Serial number- AEA2266. Features a .500 wide Target Hammer and a .493 wide target trigger and large target grips. On the other side of that equation, when I want something, or someone to stay down.Thank you Mr. Browning, Mr. Colt, and Bill Ruger. .44 Magnum. When it comes down to it, you get a great deal with the .44 Magnum, especially when you go with a great revolver like the Model 29, Model 69 or Super Blackhawk. For ever .454 Casull gun owner I know there are ten who own a .44 Mag. The advances in .44 Special dont end at SIG SAUER. When it comes to .44 magnums, you just cant beat the price and quality of the Ruger single actions. I would gladly trade it along with another handgun for that 629. The Model 29 is still the standard by which the rest are judged. It was a special knife, and I put it some place special lol. I love PPU 240 and 300 grain rounds. This is a beauty. .44 Magnum, Smith & Wesson 29-2 44 Magnum Nickel 8-3/8 in, Used Lightly Handled Smith & Wesson 29-2 .44mag, 6.5" Barrel, Smith & Wesson ~ Model 29-2 ~ .44 Rem Mag, Smith & Wesson ~ Model 29 Classic ~ .44 Remington Magnum. Family owned by the Wesson Family from 1874-1965. It is packed with four S&W kni, Guns Listing ID: 782703This is a pre owned Smith & Wesson 29-3 in FAIR condition. The smith and Wesson 29/629 are guns that arent meant to be shot much or at least have got ammo run thru them. The last .44 Magnum gun on my list is a bit of a specialty item. 6.5" full-lug barrel. AS NEW. My wife opened a shelf in her glass cabinet for some of my knives. NO CC Fee! Wont one bad. and even found a guy who sells .41 Special semi-wadcutter ammo for practice. Smith & Wesson leads the way when it comes to the most powerful revolvers. As I became familiar with the .44 Magnum cartridge over the thousands I fired, I came to greatly appreciate just how good the Model 29 is compared to the others. Thinks it knows more than me. History. Sponsored Ad. It could be said that the .44 Magnum was the defining cartridge of the 1950s and 1960s. Internal lock. I think it set me back $375. 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The Taurus Raging Bull series are built like tanks so much so that Buffalo Bore says they can handle their 340 grain .44 Magnum +P+ loads. This stainless steel 629-1 is in excellent condition is a pre-lock model. If I were concerned about really large grizzlies or moose, then I would want to step up to .44 Magnum at a minimum, and .454 Casull would be better. FAs products are not mass-marketed those who know revolvers know where to go for high quality products (ie, Wyoming). I couldnt shoot 1 groups with anything without optics and a rest. I have a 44 sp Blackhawk little hard to get shells . The Large, adjustable neoprene waistband on our concealed carry holster for men and women fits up to a 44" belly while the XL fits up to a 54" belly ; I consider this to be the best all-around .44 Mag load out there in terms of bullet weight, velocity, and recoil management. By Austin Knudsen. *Handling the Alaskan isnt a problem. This 4 screw 4 inch barrel revolver retains approximately 95% of the early style of high lustre S&W blue. When you take those things away, youre left with a large, heavy gun that doesnt do anything much better than a .45 ACP or 10mm Auto, but with half the capacity. BARREL LENGTH 6.5 GRIP SYNTHETIC SIGHTS RED RAMP OPTIC READY NO SAFETY NONE COLOR/FINISH SILVER . No Id say Ruger make a good product for a good price and will stand behind it. $29.00. The Model 629 Deluxe chambered in .44 Magnum, features elegant textured wood grips and is available in two barrel lengths, 3" and 6.5". I truly enjoy putting Buffalo Bores statue eliminating loads through italbeit only one statue a year, due to my old arthritic hands. Smith & Wesson N Frame Mod 629 .44 Magnum Barrel 6" TARGET Stainless ~629-2 Non. Has scratches/dents. Just a slight edge. The cartridge and the guns that use it are important to the American culture. Masc Leather Paddle Holster for Revolver with Thumb Break Fits N Frame Smith Wesson Model 29/629 Standard Barrel 44 Mag 4'' BBL, R/Draw, Brown Color #1259# . I was into knives back in the early eightys. Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 N Frame .44 Mag 8 3/8. Some dings in the grips. Im not saying I dont like my Super Redhawk. A Smith & Wesson Model 629 with a 3" barrel called the "Trail Boss" was produced for the distributor, RSR. It sports a 10 1/2 inch barrel. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. Not a hiccup. But my age is catching up with me and my arthritic wrists much prefer .44 specials for target shooting. Very good condition with some light handling marks. . 1 Review. Gun appears to be unfired. Same with my buddies 29. That includes rifles. : DAP3441Capacity: 6Barrel Length: 6.5\"Front Sight: Red RampRear Sight: AdjustableAction: Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 44 Magnum 4" -- Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 (Serial #N31XXXB) -- Pinned barrel, recessed cylinder, red ramp front sight, and adjustable white outline rear sight. This includes an adjustable rear sight, ha Stock Hogue Rubber Combat Finish Satin Stainless Finish Sights Front: Red Ramp Rear: Adjustable White Outline Capacity 6 Model Series 629 Barrel Length 4 Overall Length 9.625 Buyer S mith & Wesson 629-1 Stainless Steel,8 *' barrel,Target Hammer,Smooth Target Trigger and Target Grips Red Ramp White outline sites. Personally I like the lines of the GP100 over the 686, but you probably get a little higher level of polish on the Smith. I just miss my 4 629. 1227 fps for 4.875" 629. Best .44 Mag ever. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. Large frame magnum revolver with 8 3/8" barrel, shrouded ejector rod, bright high polish finish, wide target trigger and hammer, Tasco, Used Lightly Handled Smith & Wesson 29-2 .44 Magnum, Double-Action Revolver, 6.5" Barrel Wood Grips, Polished Nickel Finish, 6-round Cylinder, Adjustable Sights, No Box. I second your opinion. The Model 629 produced adequate accuracy, with groups around 2 inches at 25 yards. And it was my first pistol. The 5 #10 with rosewood was already gone. Accepts both .44 Magnum cartridges and .44 S&W Special rounds (sold separately). I put almost 700 rounds through a stainless steel version with a four-inch barrel and can say that its just about perfect in every way. Granted, there are those who enjoy the .454 Casull and .460 S&W, but those are essentially specialized loads for their roles and arent in very common use. I have not seen a new CZ made gun, so I dont know how they compare to the best versions of the old Dan Wessons. Well actually no it shouldnt be for a couple of really good reasons. Love them all. Moving down in size, my next choice in .44 Magnum excellence is the new Model 69. Product #: 118166 Condition: Factory New MPN: 163606 UPC: 022188636062 MFG: Smith and Wesson $ Read 1 Reviews. I see less benefit for the concealed carrier or recreational target shooter, but you do you. The first handgun I purchased was a Gold Cup. If it proves too much for you, you can always feed it lighter loads or even .44 Specials. .44 Special can be loaded pretty hot, and it would have all the power and diameter needed to be a superior choice as a CCW piece. I bought a new Model 29, 8 3/8 nickel in the presentation box back in 1975. Guns Listing ID: 802390Manufacturer: Smith & WessonModel: 29-10Tipe: RevolverCaliber: 44 MagnumSerial No. Smith & Wesson became a subsidiary of Bangor-Punta from 1965-1983. . The beauty of .44 Magnum these days is that you can purchase anywhere from extremely mild loads in .44 Special (which shoot just fine out of .44 Magnum revolvers), to mild Magnum loads, all the way to full-power Magnum loads, and even those insane Buffalo Bore +P+ loads (if you have one of the two revolvers that Buffalo Bore says can handle them). It is a large, single-action revolver that is meant to be used a primary as a hunting weapon. Wood display case. 1/3 Down, a 1/3 in 30 Days 1/3 in 60 Days, Up for sale is a rare 29-1 44 Mag.from 1962.Probably only around 50 made in very short time frame.Beautiful coke grips. DG, the fanboys like to compare the hottest 10mm rounds to the weakest .357/.41 magnum loads, but if you compare full power loads (Buffalo Bore, Double Tap, etc. Compare Compare Now. We use cookies to improve your browsing experience. They just plain work for a damn long time. . A .41 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel and stout loads should do quite well stopping just about anything in the lower 48 states short of a large grizzly bear or a large and seriously angry moose. Smith & Wesson Model 629 Classic, Large Frame, 44 Magnum, 5" Barrel, Steel Frame, Stainless Finish, Rubber Grips, Adjustable Sights, 6Rd 163636 SA/DA. Only option at the time.Great revolver. As for the recoil issue, I can put up some loads to my liking that will do the job. It was a modern classic in that day and was the anthesis of the changing times. Smith & Wesson Revolver Holsters - America's Gun Store, LLC. It wasnt always the most accurate on paper, but it was the best when it came to those undefinable characteristics that make a given load great, even though it is objectively not better in the raw data. Packed with all of the features of the New Model Blackhawk, these revolvers boast the power of 44 Magnum chambering. 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