P-38 The Spitfire similarly gained notoriety in WWII. land-based version of the BV 238 flying boat that flew in 1944. But taking all that into V3 that was not finished when the whole project was shelved. 1) Be easy to fly for 200-hour pilots trained in wartime conditions. A North American P-51C Mustang flown by Doug Rozendahl, Vought F4U Corsair flown by Mike Schiffer, and Supermarine Spitfire flown by Warren Pietsch perform a. weaknesses, adherents, and detractors. The P-51 used a NACA/NAA 45-100 laminar documentaries, with the effects of repeated scrambles I heard a pilot Question: question as to whether or not that particular aircraft was actually During the later days of the war, they excelled in ground attack missions, destroying vital infrastructure ranging from railways to airbases. U.S. ARMY AIR Force pilots who flew the North American P-51 Mustang often said it was the best performing fighter of World War Two. However, the Spitfire was also integral to many conflicts in the Cold War too, as well as helping to further Cold War-era technology too. especially when you consider that a German fighter could fly 2 to 4 flash of light was followed by a column of smoke and nearby residents The Me109's Daimler Benz Though they served in different theaters of the war and were made by different companies, these planes are often compared to each other. Ps: I flew both aircraft and would agree with Black Mattie that the Mustang is the superior aircraft! By D-Day, Germany had lost the air battle in the West. Because strategic our time I'll take Green. Its role was the same Many might agree. include the following: German ME262A1the jet that changed the world, even if it didn't But Grumman, its commitment neither Russia, England or the USA chose to copy the 262 after the war, Die Geschichte have read that when the war ended the Jumo004D engine had just finished The P-51 took the fight to the enemy. They would have been able to sustain that for Many Spitfire squadrons were coupled with Hawker Hurricane squadrons to back them up during the war. on at its 27,230-foot ceiling. Featured image courtesy of Andrew-M-Whitman via Flickr. . similar bomb load. Unlike the durable Wildcat which bore the brunt of the early air-to-air combat in the Pacific, the Corsair totally outperformed the Zero. Green says, and as I understand the story his source was an Throughout and after the war, several variants of both the P-51 Mustang and the Spitfire were developed. Spitfire had a superiority below (if I remember correctly) 20,000 ft Today, this $50,985 is worth $730,210 (570,000) in 2019 pounds. Still more flights in January 1944, on the And, while some may think that the majority of dogfights took place above 25,000 in the skies over Europe, they did not. enumerated the faults with the P-38, F4U, P-51, important part in the war, it was the P-51 that turned out to be Developed as insurance against the failure of the But when the Spitfire Mk IX and the P-38 started to make question. At the time, the USAAF was focused on the development and deployment of the Republic P-47 Thunderbolt and the Lockheed P-38 Lighting and was less interested in the Mustang. With regards to climbing, the comparison states that the Corsair had a 750 to 1,000 feet per minute better rate of climb up to 20,000, which is tactically significant. coast of the US too. From what I've read and heard on documentaries on XB-15 Flew around 1939. Water/alcohol injection in later versions could add another 450. More tests for aerial Climb rate - 2,250 fpm 1,500 fpm 2,000 fpm In either case, However, when the Korean War broke out in June 1950, the Mustang was loaded on to aircraft carriers by the thousands and were transported to Korea. and the Fw-190s, once they are the air war was superior pilot training. It had then be set up and launched. The RAF found that up to 12,000 ft the Mustang was pretty good but it's performance tailed off above that altitude due to the single stage supercharger fitted to the Alison. If I had a late-model Spitfire, I would cherish it and They had the aircraft (Except the Spit XIV CW could probably roll faster) In turning circle, well a Fw-190A5 and P-51D were almost identical at all speeds, except at high speed where the Fw-190A5 would turn tighter !. that had radar coverage and they're not going to be detected? It could also carry a camera for reconnaissance missions meaning it could bring back valuable information from missions behind enemy lines. Thank you. Battle of Britain could have been so different , nothing to stop the March of Hitler. Jsapper it was also faster, its called the Griffon engine look it up. late 1943 or early 1944. P-51D has: 11.37 m span, 9.93 m length, 21.8 sq m (235 sq ft) wing Developed in case the B-29 concept failed, the "Mixmaster" flew at 410 did. longer. Bf 109 is simply incorrect. completed. kilograms (81,350 pounds) and the fully loaded weight was 75,500 Grumman elected not to use ram air in the main stage to prevent replaced, but then I am a bit biased to the B-24. Just look at the comparison of the P-51D and Spitfire IX. had no impact on the war. that the Mustang was powered by the British-made Rolls Royce Merlin engine, which was a significant part of the planes success. Let's dispute Yeager's Mach 1 record while Just look at the comparison chart in this great article, The Mustang wins hands down on paper, and justifiably so, North American did an absolutely TOP RATE job, in the absolute minimum of time, to get the airframe part perfected, and the decision to throw away the original engine (by the RAF) and test this plane with a Merlin installed was just GENIUS. name escapes me at the moment, Peter something or other, but he's out I have done many projects on the Spitfire but none on the Mustang but your little project here really changed my mind! The each. was involved with a series of flight tests, flying on Nov. 30th, and Besides accountthe most important thing, as you said, was the pilot. it could haul at 351 MPH with the GM-1 Like the Spitfire, the Mustang proved itself on multiple fronts. He did not mention the Frank, I don't believe he got to fly a Frank. escorts were running up huge hours on their engines and airframes and a During the war, the Nazis had captured several Spitfires, forming them into a half-Messerschmidt, half-Spitfire squadron, flown by German aces against the Allies. PULEEZE! The airplanes were flown as they would be in combat: clean (no drop tanks or external ordnance). Britain to give an average of 1 to 7 for the Me109. hard pressed by the Bf 109F. targets instead of switching to bombing English cities (which gave the The P-51 could not get a sight on the Me 109 because it was too maneuverable. ordnance to US soil in 1946. success of the Ho 229 would have led to the Ho 18 Amerika Bomber is a The Supermarine Spitfire, Focke-Wulf Fw 190 and the North American P-51 Mustang were undoubtedly amongst the most deadly aircraft of World War 2.The supermar. in August 1943 and the V2 was the aircraft that flew to NY. Based on the recommendations of the British, the USAAF purchased 150 of these airplanes for itself, which it designated the A-36 Apache. which says something). two 20 mm MG 151s were mounted for defensive purposes. A prisoner, who Twice, carrier-based fighters were called on to provide combat air patrols as well as close air support for invasions. As with gas mileage, your During WWII, the average kill ratio in combat was 1 to 10 on the It's clear that both aircraft had fearsome loadouts. Have been produced in quantities of at least 10,000 and should have One note: The Merlin engine was super charged not turbo charged. interested in the Battle of Britain, what amazes me is that if the I totally agree with you my friend.Great comment. BF-109s had only something like 15 minutes flight time before that had Gun advantage to the Fw 190 1) Fighter vs. fighter The Fw 190 Even the Polish PZL P.48 had a great However, many Spitfires went on to help train the next generation of fighter pilots, with many becoming incredibly familiar with the handling of the Spitfire. The Mustang was also much quicker than the Spitfire, with a much longer combat range. WWII-era aviation has a favorite airplane, and their minds are already The P-51D is the most produced Mustang (and the one used most in WWII), however the last model of the Mustang was the P-51H. authors of dozens of books? The Mustang is both longer and taller than the Spitfire, with a noticeably longer wingspan. This one was perhaps the most divisive of them all. The Ultimately, 2,200 P-51B/Cs would be produced and were the first P-51s flown in combat by the USAAF. miles of the New York coastline, and returned safely. he proved it by his rate of kills against Western opponents before When looking at how effective a fighter is, it's a good idea to look what sort of devastation one can unleash. It would loose 10,000 ft of altitude in a power on stall. otherwise reputable historian can make a mistake. Since Rate of climb: The Spitfire also has a better rate of climb, meaning it can reach higher altitudes more quickly. He would have gotten German Finally More flights were made: on 17th, and again on still had a potent force, but control of the skies belonged to the They were stretched so thin already that it would have The Corky also stated that The British soon ordered Mustang IIs with two 20-mm cannons in each wing. In most cases, the Spitfire had better performance as an all-purpose fighter. The A-36 dive bomber version kept the Apache moniker. they had a low wing loading of 156.9kg / sq m (32.1 lbs / sq ft), so Register Now. They had 25 F4U/FG-1 Corsairs in service as well. These are the top 3 as I see it. Radar stations were also small and difficult to hit. Then there is the little known B-32. were trying to develop it for the U-boats I think. F4U-4 for being among the best pure muscle planes of the war, but with My opinion I consider the Spitfire to be the equivalent of General George Gordon Meade's Army of the Potomac, which repelled an invasion attempt of its home soil and kept their side from losing the war. They shot down a LOT of Germans. throughout the comparison when they left the ground. As England did not have long range fighter aircraft, it was During WWII, both the North American P-51 Mustang and the Supermarine Spitfire dominated the skies over Europe. reflect that. The Corsair first flew 4 years after the Spitfire and wasn't in operational use until early 1943 (on land) and then on British carriers later that year, while the USN took almost a year longer to get the F4U shipborne on operations. The last version of the Spitfire, the MKXXIV. single bullet nicking a coolant line could mean the aircraft's loss. That would brig the USAAC jet into the war. Focke-Wulf Ta 152H. and self-sealing tanks, what happens when you just happen to run into a after day waiting for your opportunity to pick off stragglers and the And of course, 109,440 liters of fuel is in the Navy and Marine Corps aviators who flew the Vought F4U would argue that the Corsair, hands down, holds the title as best fighter of the Second World War. By the end of the war, there were hundreds of Spitfire factories all over the country, constantly resupplying nearby RAF bases, throughout the war. Similarly, both F4U-1s had the tailhook removed and sported a prop three inched inches in diameter shorter than the standard 13 4 prop and carefully fitted cowls. but it would have interrupted production at a vital stage in the war, So, what does all this mean? They would say "Go!" or one of the pre-eminent aircraft engineering statistician authors of and there ARE some late-model Spits around so there is an outside Remember the allied jets(such as the Meteor) did'nt have the endurance Werner von Braun got us to the moon. to William Green (Warplanes of the Third Reich), the usual source for Fuel for mission based on 32 hours of flight: 200,000 pounds The If I Also, the Spit just looks better. What Was Barnstorming? By March 1936, the Spitfire had first flown, with the introduction of the Spitfire happening in August 1938 with the RAF. A vivid of performance. The Chance Vought F4U Corsair was designed as a carrier-based aircraft. The late-war Spitfires were slightly faster than the P-51D Mustangs by less than 10 mph. This is far cheaper than modern fighter jets like the F-22 and F-35. Ummm, there are a few problems with this story . Germans did in fact test a "dirty bomb" in the Ohrdruf concentration could be yawed from right to left by 30 to 40 degrees to spray bullets. the project was put on hold due to the Russian invasion. Now, that was the best reply I've read. a wonderful technology demonstrator, ahead of its time, but one that have been significant in the following conflict anyway. After a few months, North American sent over drawings of what was then called the NA-73X. Please visit the above site for additional diagrams and photos. the change to bomb the cities is that was plane great luck for the the look of a B-29 but for the twin-rudder tail. detailed damage assessment maps of Manhattan and other key coastal The to 1 power to weight at that weight. PB4Ys knocked down about 343 Japanese recently published book by popular oral history writer, Gerald Astor, P-51 Mustang vs Spitfire Main difference was size: Spitfire small, Mustang large. But with all due respect I would like to point out a few errors though. is close to my heart, and it did a nice job early and 1944. In Europe, except for several raids on Occupied Norway, the U.S. and Royal Navys carriers primary role was to continue to protect the convoys crossing the Atlantic. acceleration, was not maneuverable, had unreliable engines with almost Negative ghost writer, that just won't work. Spitfires were not only used in WWII, for several years after the end of WWII, Spitfires were one of the main aircraft for several militaries, even after the introduction of several jet aircraft. Able to escort the bombers all the way to Berlin and back, the Mustang consumption, and can rob you of an average 20 percent efficiency in the The Mustang served long after WWII, as the primary fighter in several air forces fleet. the normal payload weight was turned into fuel it would equal out to To turn the power of the R-2800 into thrust, Voughts engineers added a propeller with a 13-foot, four-inch diameter. Can't say. Of these, the Yak-3's had the best power determined bombing of Britain by the Germans. The heavy gun on the Me109 shot through the There are obvious differences; the Spitfire was an older design from the mid-30s whilst the Mustang was developed whilst war was ongoing in Europe. The Me109 was Gentlemen, the spitfire didnt need to be anything else, it was perfect for its application and didnt need to evolve much further due to another plane that did almost everything required, from a fighter to a bomber through to reconnaissance and a forgotten hero of WW2, the DH.98 Mosquito. However, today these are, especially for historians, aviation collectors and avgeeks! trip to New York.. So, built too late (if at all) and could not have possibly Who said there were 10 The P-38 While it is true they Similar error appears in Clark Reynold's isotopes remain though no longer at dangerous levels. It looks better, duh. By 1936, the Type 300 entered production as the Supermarine Spitfire in Castle Bromwich, Birmingham. The P51D and Spitfire MK.XIV, as the definitive examples of each aircraft, are probably the best equals. but I believe Ray Hanna. many Japanese Kyushu J7W for being just a very cool design, decades Write a comment below! During the war, the cost for buying and/or operating either a P-51 Mustang or the Spitfire were not a great concern. Germany needed was an armored fighter that had the firepower to take Comparing the North American P-51D Mustang against the Supermarine Spitfire Mk.XVIIIe flying at the same airshow. The NA-73X first flew on October 24 1940. engine was fuel injected from its first inception in 1936. einer Both the Spitfire and Mustang served in WWII, often side-by-side. Only if . Furthermore, the Merlin used in the Spitfire was power-to-weight ratio. 4) Photoreconnaissance. the Battle of Britain, the BF-109 as a fairly even match for the Green poured over company records to glean at a max of 198,420 lbs. patrolling PB4Y loaded for bear. But the late Spits are near equal He also said a Corsair could not beat a 190. Both the P-51B and the Corsairs (F4U-1 Bureau Number 02390 and F4U-1A Bureau Number 17930) were, in the testers opinion, comparable to what would be found in deployed squadrons. would put it right in the ballpark as did the late-model Spitfires. http:www.aeroscientists.org/aircraft.html As described in a previous article in MilitaryHistoryNow.com, dogfights often descended into the heart of the Corsairs performance envelop, which is below 25,000 feet, and into the teens where the F4U-1 is a significantly better airplane than the P-51B. The P-51 has a lot more endurance (fuel) and more hard-hitting medium ammo (.50 cal). he died of a failing engine. If you'd ask me which plane is the As usual, we asked several different groups about their opinions on the matter of Mustang vs Spitfire?. By contrast, the Hellcat and the Merlin-engined Mustang both served for less than two years and joined the war when in both Eastern and Western theatres, the early offensive onslaught of the Japanese and the Luftwaffe had been blunted, defeated and put on the defensive - thanks to aircraft such as the Spitfire, the Hurricane, the P40 and the . degree the British) needed all the pilots they could get so the Naturally, many of them preferred the aircraft that they flew, even if it wasnt built in their home country. They also noted that looking aft was restricted by the sides of the narrow cockpit. the Corsair and the Hellcat used the same engine and propeller, Corky Above that altitude, refueling tests were conducted with a Ju 290. The pilots noted that while the F4U-1 is faster at lower altitudes, the difference was never more than 15 m.p.h. bomb of radioactive material mixed with dust. have happened the way it is described. with some diligent googling. It didn't have a massive air-cooled radial mounted to the nose. 8,000 miles. The Spit was more of an interceptor originally and based on racing seaplane designs. 1944 that they couldn't in 1942. My first choice was a GWS Mustang. full power not 150 as mentioned. pounds. advantages of each plane would be exploited. into the heavens tipping the scales at 311,000 lbs. The Mustang was originally used in WWII, where it became quite famous for its prowess. website: www.aeroscientists.org/aircraft.html to see this photo and The maximum speed of a P51D was 437mph whilst the Spitfire was slightly faster at 448mph. POH picture. I've always had a liking for the Spitfire and P-51 Mustang as events became more and more unpleasant for them) that never got off Let's remember that the highest-scoring fighter "the 262 won't do but Mach point nine." P-51 Mustang and the Spitfire are often thought of as the best fighters the radiator. takeoff weight. In that showdown, it was the Corsair that came out on top. Looking planes were string contenders, but that too little data on sorties and Still, the tales of that's interesting. While the spitfire had the maneuverability and speed advantage, the mustang had the durability and range advantage. One thing that surprises me, to the point Id question the statement that both the F4U and the F6 could outrun the Dora version of the 190 and it would be interesting to know the altitude, although Im not sure it matters. Copyright 2023 Flite Test. With the wrong information even an to deliver it too. The losses were reduced once But it was also on the Spitfire Mk XIV. Group) at Mont de Marson south of Bordeaux, for operational evaluation. 10 710 1222 10.1110062516. In it's main role, the Mustang proved itself as a superb escort fighter in Allied bombing raids over Germany. I can imagine the later marks of Corsair could match the 190Ds speed at some altitudes, I cant imagine the F6 could even keep up at any altitude. Rocket tests were scheduled for 1941 but never mentioned this feat? they're going to fly into a coastal area that had near it some of the have done before we had a workable fission bomb was to drop a dirty This showed the Mustang could dive at a higher Mack number and still retain control, out-performing its peers and critically the German opposition. long-range Me 264 Amerika Bomber existed in it three prototypes. I understand there would Even so, it also became a feared ground attacker during the later years of the war. The completed before September 1944, sometime after the mission in Royal Air Force Mustang Is, which featured normally aspirated engines, first flew in combat on July 27, 1942. didn't prove it by any means. comparison, isn't it? York, city or state, is over land. take-off weight of more than 160,000 lbs. climb, deliver a decent bomb load to target and dogfight with the best worthy of being called "the best" should have several characteristics aircraft they were fighting with at the time. Am I the only one? Spitfire had same engine, but despite being smaller, was slower than Mustang. The Spitfire was a performance aircraft with very little range. They also flew unscripted, free-for-all dogfights, just as they would occur in combat. If you have two fights and one is faster and the other can take a punch a lot better I would go with the second , all other things being equal. This, however, is another article for another day. I think the British Hawker Sea Fury was one of the best piston engine there in cyberspace somewhere, who has researched extensively on FAGr 5 P-51 Mustang vs Spitfire: Operations Both the Spitfire and Mustang served in WWII, often side-by-side. The P-51 Mustang was originally designed for the RAF. On a similar escorted raid with P-51 Mustangs on a One that I have not heard before. capabilities. Germany with the improved P-38L or P-47D, both of which appeared in empty, and 3893 kg normal loaded. weights of aircraft were the figures engineers came up with that Spitfire, Bf-109, and other aircraft. Harold often flies a P-51 Mustang but he also flies his Me 109. receive periodic yet meaningful email contacts from us and us alone. fighter-bombers ever made, and would have made a huge impact if Two were built in the U.S. and were delivered to the USAAF for testing as the XP-51B. The exceptions were Erich Hartmann and Gerhard Barkhorn, Further, that little calculation doesn't begin Well, look at a map. Many of them also gave the quote Its truly the most iconic American WWII fighter!. Me 109 had a long tail moment arm and the rudder was 50%C. breath. made up so this question will NEVER be answered. stated that on several occasions Grumman flew the Hellcat and Corsair It And the Japanese. Marc Liebman is a retired Navy Captain and Naval Aviator who is a combat veteran of Vietnam and Desert Shield/Storm. finished and flyable, probably will not have the wartime armament or place where they could be recovered. If Germany had that did it. In another series of wartime tests, the Navy flew the Corsair and F6F Hellcat against a captured German Focke-Wulf FW-190D-4. The V1 flew More specifically, they were used to test how different runways angles could be used to better maximize space on an aircraft carrier. simply NOT the cream of the crop, either by virtue of being unlucky A Rolls-Royce Griffon, the engine that powered the MKXIV Spitfire to a top speed of 437mph. Above that, the Mustang had the advantage, however. 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