italian black powder revolver proof marks

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Copyright 2019 sassnet.com Some older foreign Italian firearms date year of proof codes. Tullea three spiked crown or mitre above a capital E (as shown below). HV{PTwjrh"1 fv] country requiring that weapons sold within the respective country, and 0000071997 00000 n Quick View Add to Cart . Hb``a``=P @1630i`@GDTVs(R {g i 23>`.0,p?PA! 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The well known manufacturers did not want their name and reputation on a cheaper firearm, so these were sub-contracted out. 0000005942 00000 n 0000080540 00000 n Parisa cipher of E. and P. set back to back (as shown below). proof marks. Italian Proofmarks & Dates of Manufacture 1945 - 2030 By Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire Start new topic Posted December 20, 2013 Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date) This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm 0 Enjoy the thrill of shooting a gun from the Old West and experience how history repeats itself. Peacekeepers, Molalla River Rangers, ORANGE COUNTY REGULATORS,UP THE CREEK GANG ,LIFE MEMBER OF JACKSON HOLE REGULATORS,DOOLEY GANG,PRAYER POSSE, Robbers Roost Vigilantes, Dammit Gang, RO II, Ozark Posse, Southern Missouri Rangers, Bear Creek Volunteers, Dooley Gang, Geezer Gang. BICBWmaybe a call to PIetta or Uberti would solve the mystery?? 0000002272 00000 n 0000037713 00000 n There used to be an odd-duck that came about several ways. The information was given to me years ago and yes I was wondering myself how they got 30% more powder into the cylinders! The AE is the proof mark and that is decoded as 1979. HMo09..0pl4jub(FZf=~$ABP(XLP 1969 = XXV. Uberti cartridge rifles embody the look and feel of the Old West. (1977 and 1979) Now, if I had only had the presence of mind to write down that info when I finished the .36 cal brass framed pistol kit. The system of proof in Great Britain was as follows: In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. 0000099472 00000 n Serial Numbers. 35 0 obj <> endobj Besides these national collections, there are many municipal and private galleries whose curators have formed most excellent catalogues, but in the main this knowledge is uncoordinated. The "PN" are the initials for "polere nera" or black powder. 0000052548 00000 n Some proof marks on side of frame and the roman numeral XX. It is usually a combination of heraldry and letters or logos, which need to be decoded in order to determine the actual manufacturer of the reproduction. 0000096938 00000 n 0000010034 00000 n referred to more commonly as "Proof Marks", e"GK((((JYWo b>G{9NLc>O4N&+ n2 The most visible change is the change from a crown to a star 1950 so crown and PSF is from the time between 1923 and 1950. 0000036933 00000 n The "not all revolvers are proofed" is unverified since nobody is willing to admit this. There are the RRRs, the *PN and * Gardone proof marks and an AB date code. It is available on the web from Adobe as a free download. All copies and uses are prohibited. Navy Model Right side -- Black Powder Only -- Made In Italy Bottom flat -- "BFB" (manufacturer's mark) Caliber -- 36 (.380 round ball) These marks tell the country of origin of the weapon. The Model 1851 Black Powder Revolver comes with a hammer rear sight and a fixed front sight. 0000008059 00000 n Fairly common in comparison, owners would have their favorite smokepole bored out instead of having the barrel re-rifled or "refreshed". 0000009831 00000 n FEMALE PEOPLE, Tusco Long Riders, Brown Township Regulators, Firelands Peacemakers, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Indiana Black Powder Guild, OOWSS, Umpqua Regulators, Siuslaw River Rangers, RUCAS, Jefferson State Regulators, Klamath Cowboys, Wolverton Mt. Thanks for your help. date, serial number and property marks as well as various acceptance and 0000039418 00000 n The proof marks for Eibar, in Spain, are the letters Po, surmounted by a crown. 148 0 obj <> endobj xb``e``yhXa`+(y-[6zX8-dRRh i9W@Zu"vl=d*b5,JqXx ,8Pl}C;a>aN )10Zx'@ R3 I would be grateful to any lover of arms who possesses authentic dated weapons, or has catalogued a private collection, if he would send to me, in care of my publishers, any such information which will add to the mass of fact available. A voluminous schedule of rules and scales of charge for the proof of various kinds of small arms is in existence, and the proof is the same at London and at Birmingham; though different proof marks are employed. 0000106738 00000 n 0000008370 00000 n 0000010518 00000 n 0000003020 00000 n determination. My feeling is you have a Walker copy someone made look old. The mark is applied after the gun has passed the Belgian proof. Last edited: Feb 17, 2018. The top of the barrel is marked, " Connecticut Valley Arms-Made in Italy". . 1991 = BA. 0000051711 00000 n We have provided you In now represents definitive black powder proof except for muzzle loaders 1893 - present 14 Designates guns with rifled chokes. Inspectors WWII German Codes & Markings GUN MARKINGS Please enter the markings you want to research and click the submit button. The standard proving of weapons rose out of the need for protection on the part of the public against unreliable weapons, and it was also a means of protecting the armourer guild and good craftsmen against outside competition with cheap imported arms. 0000036564 00000 n 1967 = XXIII. Predictably, speed jumped from around 750 fps to well above 900 fps. Action Type: Percussion Black Powder Revolver. Genuine Parker-Hale barrel markings - roll marks and proof stamps, A Comparison: The Zouave and the Mississippi, This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association [cont], This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association Journal. 0000011853 00000 n 0000013943 00000 n The previous owner kept it in a display in his gun room. Underneath the whole appears the word St. Etienne. 0000008724 00000 n Does anyone know where I could find the codes? Information, NRA 0000102139 00000 n Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. Proof Marks or 1810 -> Liege. 0000107556 00000 n According to a web site this is the Italian date code for 1977. EMF's Great Western II single action revolvers and Hartford model percussion pistols are manufactured by F.A.P F.LLI. 0000052647 00000 n 0000015263 00000 n I am stomped any information would be great. 0000015377 00000 n 0000009076 00000 n Italian Date Codes. 0000134772 00000 n Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810. C.-{.-~Q~vVW?[.aMF^fV?4J/:50fb0L@w6l=lMaCFnO,ta#ip:xCr3A?Z[Hi6? Condition Grading Definitions For Antique Firearms, This website may not 0000084840 00000 n HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 0000078152 00000 n for your continued support, encouragement and admonishment. 0000105711 00000 n THE PROOF MARK IS A STAR OVER PN. 0000011101 00000 n I wonder what the odds of a real Walker turning up in Switzerland are? BA 112 Magazine-Tube Pump-Action Shotgun Brand: Best Hulu Arms 5% discount for over 250 pcs order. Dashing Leper 36 Cl. NRA Life Patron, US Navy 1967-2001; Vintage motorcycle racing, restoring; CAS; Trap; Skeet; US&World History; Work DoD weapons R&D. Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. location, rather than a manufacturer. View Models. 0000004954 00000 n 0000096658 00000 n Good info. 0000002932 00000 n 0000136869 00000 n A PDF link to Dennis Adler's article about Italian Black Powder Proof marks is given below. In stock. Interestingly, the spout/measure of the powder flask that came with my revolver only measures 19 grainsby weightof the blackpowder. In 1849 the additional ciphers for provisional proof the letters E.L. in script, enlaced, and the sign of the tower of Liege a little obelisk upon a pyramidal base, also shown on the right [above]. This type of proof is designed to prevent the manufacturer from continuing work on barrel blanks which may have hidden defects. I saw that as wellnote that AE was used, but "BE" is skipped. 1989 = AU. 0000080518 00000 n I never saw it extended to 2030! The third is a plain stamp, with the letters A.V.E. FABBRICA ARMI F.LLI PIETTA DI PIETTA GIUSEPPE EC. The barrel pictured is a perfect example as it bears all of the Italian proof marks described. I'd bet that CE was skipped as well (as are all "G" combos). 0 Web site designed & maintained by Cap and Ball Revolvers . Proof 0000067226 00000 n 1968 = XXIV. 0000004839 00000 n Their cipher or mark was the letters G.P. To make purchases and use the full site services, register or login your account, Shooting accessories/Guns storage/Training, Immediate shipping on a all products listed, Contract - 5.56 x 45mm 62 Gr. THINGS THAT GO BANG! Gun Proof Marks, Stamps and Date Codes . The well-known Waffenamt Nazi symbol was actually a military acceptance mark, and not a proof mark. 0000012553 00000 n b` I"G3M9YCNxB5)f(1TVVA |7dZgM gBg >noPow l+zyU"^-0x5LH2O4~3z1RuYC.5,CJc38Z"(:o0IoJ(V-7Lvh{_.#DAh8 LSB#: 210317JM01. Price: $436.00. The polished brass trigger guard and walnut grips hold true to tradition. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to 0000052569 00000 n My wife and grand kids and my kids. 0000009592 00000 n 0000105361 00000 n 0000000016 00000 n 0000104236 00000 n Copyright 2017 and beyond. The two upper case letters or roman numerals in a box is the code for the year the firearm was proofed. 0000115678 00000 n . 0000143308 00000 n startxref 0000059736 00000 n weapon. 1851 Navy Black Powder Revolver Redi-Pak .44 Cal. fW5Zi|Fki"Mf4i{~9wY C [[8jD=z"ef ~ZckGWE(}vE|4 Also has pn with shield on cylinder. Pietta 1858 Remington Buffalo Black Powder Revolver - .44 Caliber 12" Barrel Brass Frame w/ Blued Barrel - RGC44. My revolver seems to have no date marks on it anywhere. 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