This preventative maintenance is best to do at your next oil change interval and every 60k to 100k miles that your engine runs. BE bearings are the best !! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. ConRod Bearing Set 11247528900 For BMW 550i M5 X5 X6 F10 F90 F02 E70 N62 N63 S63. We can take a listen to your VANOS while your in the shop as well. Loads of the American owners are changing them out. Edited by Patrick Bateman on Sunday 26th July 20:07. Up to that point they had said if it was a warranty job then i would only need to pay the 250 excess. Free shipping on many items . 2023 Lang Racing Development - Orange County BMW, Porsche & MINI Specialists, Race Car Rental Transport Track Support Storage, OEM BMW rod bearings that feature the WPC surface treatment. A few weeks ago, we had a customer contact us regarding his E60 BMW M5. 1 - 1 of 1 Posts Write your reply. We may earn a commission from links on this page. I mean, thats why they (high clearance RBs) were created in the first place, right? a moment ago Can anyone recommend a shop in the Seattle area for rod bearing job on a 2008 S85? $63.00. All the aftermarket bolton stuff of quality is going to cost more than the value of the car for maybe 50hp 30 tq at the wheels. Why would worn bearings be any justifiable reason to not pay out?? These bearings are manufactured for additional oil clearance for 10W60 engine oil and using common rod bearing materials instead of the harder metals of the latest factory BMW bearing shells. I am leaning towards a). As pointed out, its felt like the dealer has tried their hardest to squeeze as much money out of me as possible. BMW Level 1 Master Certified. Wallet be damned. We're Driving the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek, What Do You Want to Know? That is why we dont post pricing in the comments. Finally, congrats on the new to you M5! The engine has an almost purring type of sound at low RPMs that I love. BE was able to achieve a nominal clearance of .0024 by using a STD bearing on the rod side and a .001 oversize bearing on the cap side, this is common practice when building race engines to achieve ideal bearing clearances. As the engine ages, these bearings can become worn and thin which allows excess play and increased wear. Free delivery for many products. I have used Mobil 5W50 oil since i got the car. For example, pricing for the WPC treated bearings has gone up drastically the last few weeks. Its satisfying in the same way that I imagine watching major league baseball is people who give a crap about baseball, which is to say that I know what the mechanic is doing, I know generally how theyre doing it, but Im nowhere near that level when I do it myself. Doing this process on the mill ensures that the drain plug is perfectly flush with the sealing surface and will never leak in the future. Watching him work on BMWs is like watching Ken Griffey Jr in the 90s (I grew up in Seattle, so spare me your other references). We have found that standard bearings run a little bit tight for our liking, so we worked with ACL to develop a custom solution that creates the rod bearing clearance we like to see. I know they're rare, but I really would hold out to find a 6 speed if you're in the US. Mileage and maintenance records. The rod bearings on the S85 engines dont seem to last anywhere near as long as they do on the standard 5 or 6series engines. A BMW M5 will cost about $14,667 for maintenance and repairs during its first 10 years of service. Our belief is that bearing clearance may play a role in premature failure, but its also possible that other factors play a role. Many factors can lead to bearing failure on these engines including warm up period, service intervals as well as the original BMW design. I would recommend checking out the M539 Restorations -> Project Raleigh BMW E60 M5 playlist on youtube to gauge the level of maintenance required for an E60 M5. I used to for the purpose of lowering compression when barring the engine over by hand to get to the next set of rods, but when you're only rotating a few degrees, it isn't that bad and I save probably 2 hours there alone. Also includes BMW projects, tips and more. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Con rod bearings ACL Race for BMW M5 M6 E60 E63 E64 V10 5.0L S85B50 -0.025mm HX at the best online prices at eBay! Long story shortish, with depreciation to many broke buyers have neglected most of the e60's for sale as with most former flagship german cars. Watch M539 Restorations Turn This E60 M5 From Junk Into a Gem From rod bearings to interior upgrades and finally . Lastly these cars aren't really mod friendly. E60 M5 major model year differences - 2008 they updated the head/tail lights and interior (LCI), 2009 the cars got a new Idrive controller but old idrive computer, and the last year 2010 the idrive was updated to what BMW used through 2013. ACL Race Series performance engine bearings feature increased eccentricity to increase improve shape adaptation to compensate for bore distortion at high speed operation Assists in the formation of hydrodynamic oil film. Most engine builders would agree this is too tight and we would prefer to see closer to .0025 for this journal which is almost exactly 2.0465 on average. Since BMW bearings were the only option, we tried to open them up a bit using WPC treatment. I have 109000km's on the clock. I have a 2005 E60 M5 with 124,000kms on the clock. I explain my preferred bearings in this preview and why these are best for your car.Now go ahead and SMASH that SUBSCRIBE button and stay tuned for the next great video from Mark Holubetz at ExoticCar PlayPlace.We are always looking for supercars to drive and review, so if you would like to see your special toy on the big screen, please contact via Private Message, and we can make arrangements. There is also a 40.39% chance that a M5 will require a major repair during that time. If the dealer knew this was going to be the result (trust me they did..as soon as the car went into the dealership!) Similarly the HX bearing is a bit to loose producing around .0028 clearance. Thank you. Everything. I replaced them just for you, I mean, for peace of mind.Here's the link to the kit I bought but there are others out there that may be on sale depending on the time of year and stuff. Free shipping. Discuss performance, specs, reviews and more! They said they could go further into the engine, but my bill would go up at 130 an hour and warranty still wouldn't pay due to the worn bearings! What the garage said was that they'd need to strip the engine further down before contacting warranty - the 2400 has got the engine out and sump off. So it would be more cost effective to just have them replaced. You know better than I, but you would think that higher clearance aftermarket RBs SHOULD have a longer lifetime than OEM RBs (all conditions being equal). I suppose Blackstone has the largest sample size of data that can be sorted by engine, RBs, engine miles, oil type, oil change frequency, and additives (though all data are owner-reported). Been reading up on the topic, which I know has been covered extensively other than these three things (please point me in the right direction if I have missed the post). Free shipping on many items . The BMW S85 V10 is one of the gnarliest sounding engines to ever leave the M-Division. With bearing clearances its not a more is better situation. https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/. Goal being catching a bearing issue before it becomes a new engine issue. Used that same oil last 9 years with my E39 M5 without any problems. im doing the work myself as i have time over the week. I have used Mobil 5W50 oil since i got the car. (looking at you vanos solenoids, though an M5 board member makes new ones at a reasonable price.). be bearings going into my car now. Sign up to get first notice of specials and promotions. I took the warranty out the day i bought the car, as I didn't want to risk running without one. To not fail the way OEM RBs do? He expressed to us that he had been contemplating whether or not to bite the bullet and replace the V-10 S85's bearings after seeing and hearing of the horrible aftermath that can ensue should they fail. Vehicle now has 75K and I just did a dealer oil change to ensure proper flushing and OEM grade components. Rod bearing replacement is a fact of life for E60 M5 and E63 M6 owners and this kit has you covered for a DIY rod bearing replacement on the S85 engine. One of his best projects so far is his E60 M5 with the US-only six-speed manual transmission that he bought from Raleigh, North Carolina for a grand total of $6,000. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Free delivery for many products. 515 Likes, 2 Comments - LEGENDARY.V10 (@legendary.v10) on Instagram: "FOR SALE BMW M5 Touring E61 2007, V10 SMG Auto With F1 Paddle Shift Gears, Interlagos Blue . All of that new is about 5k right there depending on labor. The rod bearings on the S85 engines don't seem to last anywhere near as long as they do on the standard 5 or 6 series engines. Neither are cheap, and you will always be chasing problems. Another common maintenance item on the S85 engines is the high pressure VANOS line that runs inside the engine. So they have charged you 2400 to tell you what the issue is and then told you not to claim on the warranty as the car must have been driven hard?! Also includes BMW projects, tips and more. 76,669 views Dec 12, 2018 1K Dislike Share Alex Gray 22.4K subscribers "wAiT TiLl YoU sPiN a BeArInG iN a YeAr LoSeR" .. Oh. My BE high clearance RBs have 80k on them, and all traditional precautions have been taken to extend their lifeno track, only 4k+ once at operating temp, oil changes at <5k, Liqui Moly and Cera Tech. Gassing Station | M Power | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff, 1998 to 2023 CarGurus UK Limited, All Rights Reserved, PistonHeads is a registered trademark of CarGurus Ireland Limited, CarGurus UK Limited, c/o Legalinx Limited, 3rd Floor, 207 Regent St, London W1B 3HH, United Kingdom. With careful in house measurements we were able to determine the correct torque procedure for installing the Carrillo bolt in the stock rod that does not distort the big end rod bore roundness. This package uses the latest Genuine BMW rod bearings that have gone through a micro-polishing treatment by WPC. $193.25. If so by who and with what. By 6,000 rpm not only does it sound insane but the power just keeps climbing. Or do you have any knowledge how likely that would be? Emille, thank you for reaching out. Newer MY the better. So both replaced with NEW at 70K. \"wAiT TiLl YoU sPiN a BeArInG iN a YeAr LoSeR\" . Oh yeah? Once those are done there aren't really any more monsters in the closet, just budget for expensive consumables: tires, brakes, and gallons of liquid moly. M5Board.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope, Inc. ACL Race Rod Bearings Std Size Fits BMW S85B50 5.0L M5 . 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